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- | The TV in question is the Vizio SV420M. The problems I have been having lately include the noticeable flicker on my previous smaller TV. Upon getting this " | + | First you should subscribe to one or several of the mailing lists presented below. After subscribing you can send emails to the list(s) by using the mailing list address stated in its description. If you would rather want to use the mailing list through a news group interface, please read the section [[#News group interface]]. |
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- | The problem is here that my tv claims its 120hz yet only shows up to 60hz refresh rate at the most. My understanding is I may have been gipped or Im missing something when it comes to movies vs using the tv as a monitor for gaming.**[[http:// | + | |
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- | FYI Im heading off to work as i post this so dont expect a response till the evening. Regardless, any information and opinions as well as recommendations for a different TV thats not poopy if this one is would be appreciated. | + | |
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- | 120Hz HDTVs and 120Hz PC monitors operates differently. | + | |
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- | 120Hz HDTVs only accepts 60Hz inputs. The 120Hz refers to video processing done internally by the HDTV to smooth out video and also give it that " | + | |
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- | 120Hz PC monitor accepts dual linked DVI D (60Hz each link). Apparently you did your research on 120Hz PC monitors and simply assumed it applies to HDTVs as well. 120Hz HDTVs came out before 120Hz monitors. | + | |
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- | After careful research and much consideration I now understand the difference between HDTVs and monitors. One major problem is that it seems I would have to get a Monitor to get the full experience without the flicker as far as games go. I now understand the differences but now have some questions: When looking at larger monitors (30+in.) Im pointed to plasma, which dont always have a nice Refresh Rate or are very high priced. It does seem that the first generation of 120hz Monitors only going in 22in and have a 1600/ | + | |
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- | Seeing as i run dual cards, i want to get the highest resolution i can to have the greatest impact on performance so im considering getting one of those monitors. My question is that if i have a ATI card Im not going to be able to get the full 3D? It seems cool and all but can i just get the monitor for its ability to have such a high refresh rate to play at max performance without screen flicker or do i have to go all the way? Another question is that im seeing Nvidia all over this 3D glasses/ | + | |
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- | Thanks for all your answers as always, but to finish things up what do i need to consider as far as ports for purchasing these monitors? I see that people mention going dual dvi, keeping the HD display, the 120hz refresh AND have reduced input lag(The monitors mention there is less in DVI mode only, but the alienware monitor i mentioned only has one DVI port). Is all that required? How bad is the lag if any if i just plug a HDMI cable in to one of those babies? | + | |
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- | All in all id like some good recommendations for a 120Hz Monitor (not worried about the price) and what to look for when shopping for one. | + | |
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- | Are you definitely going to use 3d vision? Are your graphics cards capable of a sustained 120fps in the games you want to play at the intended resolution? Do you think you can tell the difference between 60fps and 120fps? | + | |
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- | IMO you'd need to say yes to all three to make a 120hz display (monitor not TV) worth it | + | |
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- | On a LCD, there is no 're draw', the backlight is continuous (its not really unless it's a LED backlight, but a CCFL backlight is probably operating at 150hz+ so definitely not giving a perceptable flicker anyway) yes, the backlight is continous so there is no flickering effect from the re draw, the image is constantly displayed on screen until the pixels change. So it is only the colour of the pixel that is being 're freshed' | + | |
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- | Getting back to the point, you won't see any less ' | + | |
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- | First of all id like to thank you for your very descriptive post of very important information, | + | |
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- | As far as your 3 questions earlier, I know there are several games i can run at 60+ fps consistently. Not exactly all at 120fps, but the idea of capping your framerate makes me feel like my rig specs go to waste, which is why im turning to a 120hz monitor. Even on battlefield bad company 2 with 8xMSAA max settings id consistently get 90 100fps. And as far as how much ill notice the change between 60hz vs 120hz id say its damn noticeable with my HDTV just watching movies. Just watched my Blu Ray Evangelion 2.22 after watching it twice on my old 60hz monitor and i thought i was gonna get knocked in face the thing looked so damn real. In case you dont know, the movie in question is a flippin animation. The fluidity of the animation and video itself just blew me away. Not sure if its my eyes or just the fact that i wear glasses, but things like that become very noticeable for me very fast. | + | |
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- | This all considered, am in the good to where a 120hz monitor would benefit me? | + | |
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- | The difference when watching a movie on your 120hz HDTV and the 60hz monitor is a separate comparison again. Your 120hz TV is actually creating frames that aren't there with its 120hz processing engine. With your 60hz monitor it is only showing the film in its original format, 24fps or 30fps. The movie will definitely appear smoother to anyyone watching it on the two screens as your TV is creating intermediate frames itself, which smooths out the motion. With a 120hz TV you also don't get any ' | + | |
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- | Anyway, a gaming pc output on 60 or 120hz monitors is different kettle of fish as you are talking about the pure framerate the screen can display, not taking into account any kind of processing of the signal done by the display itself. Whether it is worth it to you or not comes down to | + | |
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- | 1: If you can you see a difference with the extra 60 fps? I'd suggest to try and have a look at some in store or read a few reviews. (I saw X bitsLabs reveiwed the Samsung 22" 120hz 1680x1050 monitor and sang its praises, saying the 120hz was very good.) | + | |
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- | 2: If your PC can do 120fps in the games you want it to? I think with dual 5770s you will be close, depending on the game and resolution | + | |
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- | 3: Will the games you play benefit from the extra fps enough to make it worth the money? If you are really into quick FPSs then you might find that 120hz really helps with gameplay, and you might be willing to compromise detail levels in the future or upgrade your gfx to get your 120fps if needs be? If you play a lot of real time strategy games then 120hz may not be that important. For me I like eye candy and MSAA, and I play on a 22" 1080p screen so it looks super sharp with no jaggies. This drains every last pony from my 8800GTs in Sli so there are very few games that I would make 100fps in! For me 120hz wouldn' | + | |
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- | You do have a PC with a good spec though, so if you have the money to spend then a 120hz monitor would be a nice thing to have, and it will give you an element of future proofing too, being 3d ready. You need to decide whether the benefits you will get personally will make it worth the cost. | + | |
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- | High settings + AA + Direct X 11 + games coming out all the time = massive drains on GPUs. Depending on games you are playing, in order for 120fps to be a regular occurance you would be needing to update your GPUs very very regularly. | + | |
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===== General Mailing List ===== | ===== General Mailing List ===== | ||
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